Also by being adamantly secular you are imposing your beliefs. How do you not see that.

This is quite a digression though from the main point of the post you replied to. You called the people at RedState theocons, you provided no proof of that accusation. Your accusation has no merit.

Also, none of this explains your support of Scozzafava. On just the fiscal side of the argument, she is the less conservative of the two being discussed. You can jump through hoops all day long but that won’t change what it.

The problem is that everyone has their own set of beliefs, and if we try to impose the beliefs of any one person or group on everyone else then someone is going to be offended, oppressed or made to suffer as a result. Therefore we have a constitution and a system of laws which are supposed to assure that no group, even if it is the majority, can impose their beliefs on others.

Dave

For the record I have no problem with the separation of Church and State, as explained by Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists. That said I do have a problem with the exclusion of God in political thinking. God permeated the thoughts and actions of our Founders. To reject that is to accept a secular revisionist history, that has led to the moral decay of our nation.

This moral decay has been encouraged and seized upon by the progressives, both left and right, since the early 1900’s. It has allowed them to increase the reach of government into our everyday lives, through the criminal code.

Most candidates who you would probably classify as Theocons, want a far smaller central government than we have now. They would be considered allies of many libertarians, if only they would shed their own religious bigotry.

Starting with not calling them Theocons.

Get my point.

I’m perfectly happy voting for a muslim or lutheran or catholic with whom I can agree on basic POLITICAL principles, even if I don’t share their religion. Why do we need to politicize religion or theorcratize politics? The founding fathers had a very good idea when they urged us to keep the two separate for the protection of both.

And where do you get the idea that either I or the author of this article is not a Christian? For a Christian separation of church and state is essential to protect religious liberty. Do you want Obama deciding what your minister can say in the pulpit as has happened in England and Canada?

Dave

New York politics is also different from what most of us are familiar with. The expectations of the party establishments are different, hell the parties themselves are different in some basic ways.

Dave

I can totally understand you not wanted to get excited about Dede, after all Kos endorsed her over the Democrat in the race. As did ACORN, and their political party WFP.

I also notice that you didn’t address the fact that in NY23rd it was the, how do you say it, establishmentarians who selected Scozzofava as the nominee. No primaries there you know.

This leads to a question about your own hypocrisy. You were willing to support the more conservative candidate in 2006 against the GOP selected nominee. Hoffman being one of those “theocons” just can’t get your support.

“Single issue extremists doom the GOP”, so says a commenter on RedState who then links to this article as a defense of Scozzofava.

So my advice to you is…physician heal thyself.

As a party we cannot afford to cling to the restrictive agenda of the religious right any longer. We need to focus on the principles of the party and not make appealing to single issue voters a tactic. It’s a losing tactic and we can do better.

Dave